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To know Him and the power of His resurrection

January 31, 2008

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That I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings;  being conformed to His death.  Philippians 3:10.

Dear Friends,
Loving greetings from Australia this lovely day the 1/31/2008.

To know Him and the power of His resurrection can be the desire of every one of us as we continue in the Word right through 2008.
The scripture says, “That when the desire comes it is a tree of Life.”
So then, we can expect great and wonderful ‘things’ (Rhema’s, Revelations) if we continue in His Word and we will know the Truth and the Truth makes us free from being attached to this world.

 Last Month we were reading about Simeon. He was an upright man, devoted to the service of God; living in expectation of the ‘salvation of Israel’. His heart was open to the Holy Spirit, and it had been revealed to him that he would not die before he saw the Lord’s Christ. He had been led by the Spirit to go into the Temple and when Jesus’ parents brought the child in to have done to him what the law required, he took him up in his arms, blessed God and said, “At last, Lord, You can dismiss Your servant in peace, as You promised! For with my own eyes I have seen Your salvation. Which You have prepared before the face of all peoples. A Light (understanding), to bring revelation to the Gentiles, (The world) and the Glory of Your people Israel.”Luke 2:29-32.

The Word of God is so wonderful, I didn’t know that this confirmation was written in this portion of Simeon; again we can see that Jesus was sent by our Father to reveal the true God and salvation. The only way to the Father is through Jesus the Christ. It is wonderful!!

I made a promise in our November letter that I would share the Word our Father gave me after my first half-hour of silence. 

For years I’ve been wondering who or what this is ‘he who now restrains’ in 2 Thessalonians 2:7 - for the “mystery of lawlessness is already at work, only He who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way.” 8 “and then the lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will consume with the breath of his mouth and destroy with the brightness of his coming.”

After the November letter was sent out in which we shared that there was silence in heaven for the space of half hour. This happened to me one morning in my time of meditation; I have never experienced this silence like it before. After this I had to go to Emerald to pick up the Mail and as I was driving the Voice said within me “Ignorance is the restraining factor.” Wow!! Yes, offcourse that’s right, the whole chapter just fell into place.
 
The Lord has spoken to me a few times out of this Chapter. After we were baptised in the Holy Spirit we were in fellowship in two different Christian groups. And to our surprise they were teaching different doctrines from each other. I was shocked; I thought there is One Holy Spirit how come that it is different from each other. I asked my Father what this is all about and He showed me 2 Thess 2 to have a love for the Truth. I have kept that love for the Truth in my heart always.

This love of the truth and the desire for One true way has led me into the most wonderful revelation. My eyes were opened to the understanding that there is One true God and that we are all begotten of Him.  The only thing is we have not known it; we have been raised with all sorts of concepts and beliefs of God outside of ourselves which has kept us separated from each other. So here again, ignorance is the restraining factor.

I confirm this Oneness I was looking for with a Scripture from 2 Cor: 5:18-21 “Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the World to Himself not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.  Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God was pleading through us: we employ you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God for He made Him, Jesus who knew no sin to be sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Him. Now the work of righteousness will be peace, and the effect of righteousness, quietness and assurance forever. My people will dwell in a peaceful place. In secure dwellings and in quiet resting places.” Isa 32:17-18.

The mystery of lawlessness. What is it? It is a hidden principle of rebellion against constituted authority. How did all this come about?  To find the answer we do have to go back to the beginning.
In the beginning God, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Isn’t it wonderful, it’s a sure foundation.
Gen 1:27 God created man in His own Image, in the Image of God He created him; male and female He created them.  Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful (which means, I exist) and multiply: fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth. Then God saw everything that He had made and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.  Thus the heavens and the earth and all the Hosts of them, were finished. 
The nature of God is, Love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, meekness, temperance, faith, wisdom. We read in John 5:26 Ampl.  For even as the Father has Life in Himself and is self-existent, so He has given to the Son to have Life in Himself and be self-existent.

So God said in the beginning to Adam, be fruitful in My nature; I have created you in My Image, Christ is the seed to bring forth after its own kind, bring forth this seed.

Do we find that Adam obeys the voice of authority? No, he comes out with “I am afraid” He was not bringing forth the seed of God which knows nothing about fear. Adam ignored the voice of God and went on with ‘I do it my way’ and the killing started with his sons and it has not stopped yet. The son of perdition is now active as Adam. It is not the physical man but that hidden mystery. The nature of Adam is that Mystery of lawlessness or the son of perdition, the ego that has brought the delusion into this world.
What is a delusion?  It is a persistent belief in something false.

God so greatly loved the world that he sent His Son to be the LAST ADAM.  When the time had come.
Then one day as I was reading 2nd Thessalonians 2:7 again an experience came to me that I actually felt that the “son of perdition” was my ego sitting within myself being my life, then the Father opened my eyes and this lawless one was revealed, but it was not outside of myself it was the law of sin and death that was working within me.  (“son of perdition” is – the lawless one who cannot accept instruction who has all the answers and doesn’t need advice.) And then the experience came of verse 8 “that the lawless one was revealed” as the Lord consumed with the breath of his mouth to destroy that “son of perdition” with the brightness of his coming.  So the coming of the Lord to me was within myself and as Jesus said “I am the way, I am the truth and I am the life.”

I did not know that my ego was the “son of perdition” which set itself up as me in the Temple of God who opposes and exalts itself above the true knowledge of God.  Therefore nobody needed to tell me anything because I knew it all.  I did it my way! Paul said, “Don’t you know that you are the Temple of God?”

So then I realised ignorance had blinded my eyes and was the restraining factor. The mystery of lawlessness was at work in me and I didn’t even know about it only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And this was my time for that restrainer to be taken out of the way. The Lord spoke within me and said, “You are my beloved child in whom I am well pleased. The Lord consumed the son of perdition with the brightness of His coming within me and I experienced the split. My ego gone and Christ as my life. The tempter will still come and try and deceive me but he can’t because now I know the workings of it.

Six days before the Passover Jesus came to Bethany, the village of Lazarus whom he had raised from the dead.  We can just imagine the whole scene of this place.  Everybody was talking about it and slowly but surely more and more people began to follow Him to the great dismay of the Pharisees.  Everyone was so excited about Lazarus and were all looking at Jesus to go and do all these wonderful things. Everybody began cutting down palm fronds and singing “Fear Not Daughter of Zion behold your King is coming.” 

As all of this was taking place there were Greeks visiting the city who came to worship and they see all this commotion happening and they approached Philip with the request “Sir, we want to see Jesus.”
Philip went to Andrew and together they told Jesus.

I find the reaction of Jesus most remarkable.  Anyone else might have said, “Yes, I will come and meet the Greek people who want to see me.”  But He has an amazing answer, “The time has come for the Son of Man to be glorified.  I tell you truly that unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains a single grain of wheat; but if it dies, it brings a good harvest.  The man who loves his own life will destroy it, and the man who hates his life in this world will preserve it for eternal life.  If a man wants to enter my service, he must follow my way; and where I am, my servant will also be.  And my Father will honour every man who enters my service.
“Now comes my hour of heart-break, and what can I say, ‘Father save me from this hour’?  No, it was for this very purpose that I came to this hour.  ‘Father, honour your own name!’”
At this there came a voice from Heaven, “I have honoured it and I will honour it again!” John 12:23.

 When Jesus first began to speak he went on to say “My Kingdom is not of this world.”   By this previous answer Jesus gave, we will be able to see clearly what he meant by “My Kingdom is not of this world.”   

While all the crowds were cheering “Hosan’na! ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!  The King of Israel!”  Jesus said “Now my soul is troubled.” ”Now comes the hour of my heart-break”.  “What shall I say Father, save me from this hour?  But, for this purpose I came to this hour.”  As Jesus had previously said, he came to let that seed of delusion die, that false life of Adam and by letting it die he would bring forth eternal life.

We have to let that belief die that thinks that we are alone. Jesus said to His disciples, “Indeed the hour is coming, yes, has now come, that you will be scattered, each to his own,
It must have been very difficult for Jesus because He was aware that in six days time His life would end.  He would not have been able to take part in the celebrations and be truly happy and joyous knowing this and even more troublesome, not being able to share this knowledge with all the crowds who were looking to Jesus to continue to perform miracles and do wondrous things.

Some of us, in our life, come to this place of having a broken heart.  Are we able in any way to change it and make it good?  No. We, like Jesus, have to accept what has happened and know we can’t change what has taken place, but we can change our attitude.  And we have to come to the realisation that ‘My Kingdom is not of this world.’

The Word of God is our comfort and for those who have lost a husband, or a child, God becomes that, for He said, “Your maker is your husband or whatever you have need of.”  Jesus had His Father to comfort Him at his time of need.  John 16:32 “Indeed the hour is coming, yes, has now come, that you will be scattered, each to his own and leave Me alone.  AND YET I AM NOT ALONE, BECAUSE THE FATHER IS WITH ME.  These things have I spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace.  In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”  If there was ever a time when Jesus needed His disciples it was now but He realised that He was not alone.

During critical times in our life we need to turn to God our Father and trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not unto our own understanding and realise that through this experience we have grown in the knowledge of God.

 

In fact we are right back at the beginning which is “Ignorance as the restrainer.  We need, like Jesus, to have the realisation of losing this life to gain that eternal life.  So when you ask yourself the question “Why is this happening to me?”  We now know why Jesus asked “Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing!”  When we pray this prayer in our broken heart or troubled soul situation, we experience the power of the resurrection of our soul as Jesus experienced his resurrection.
It took quite some time to learn to close the door behind me on all the things in my life that troubled me and was very painful.  Things I couldn’t change, couldn’t fix myself.  Then I experienced the revelation that God was my life, walking with me, alongside of me and I could lean on Him.  From that day forward my life changed. I learned to accept and trust what He said in his Word.  There is a door behind us and once you learn to close the door on heartbreak, fear, and loneliness, a whole new world rises up front of you and a completely new beginning filled with joy, peace, friends and family awaits us.

Paul had the wonderful revelation that God had made all people one people.  So he says “For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, from whom the whole family in Heaven and Earth is named, that He would grant you according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, that Christ may dwell in your heart through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height – to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.  Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, to Him be glory in the Church by Christ Jesus to all generations for ever and ever.”
In loving oneness Martha

ICM Connections  
(Inspirational teachings from our brothers and sisters in Christ around the world.)

The following is from our brother Tony in Australia. Be blessed and encouraged as you read what Father has shared with him...
I, the Creature of God is our true Identity that is NOW coming into our awareness to bring us back to our heritage, preserving our whole being, Spirit, Soul, and Body, financially and socially.
I like to remind you again, God did not create a body for man out of the dust of the ground that is not what Gen 2 tells us.  The body we feel, and suffer in is a formation of the carnal mind; it is the mortality Adam,  formed through his disobedience to the Father.  The body Adam formed in his ignorance is what I call the Pain Body(read my letter, "Transcending the pain body). Adam subjected the truth of life to time and space and dying it dies, it cannot be avoided, it goes back to the dust; (the Serpent realm is the realm of opposites, life and death, sickness and health, the Phantom of Materiality, the genetic fable of life)
2 corint: Chapter 5
For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation, which is from heaven, if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life.
Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee. You see here that our true body, the Body God ordained for us to have for all eternity is incorporeal and incorruptible, made without hands, eternal in the heavens. Remember, we do not have a physical and a spiritual body, we only have the Body, which is Christ, this is what I hear Kingdom Preachers teach that God created this Physical sense of Body first, but that is not true at all.
In truth, there is not a Flesh and Blood man and a new creation Man later on, that again is false and misleading. If any man or woman is in Christ, he or she is the creature of God, not going to be one day. God's Creature is not born by the will of the flesh (born of a woman) but of God, without Father and without Mother, the New Order, which has always been.
That was the true Light, which gives light to every man coming into the world. He was in the world, the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. Nevertheless, as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
The New Creation Man did not come into being when Jesus rose from the dead. Jesus destroyed the false image (born of sperm and egg) and rose again from the death realm, He showed us our True Heritage, the Image of God that has always been in God. As Children of God we are not born of flesh, we just must wake up out of the dust of false doctrine and know Christ to be our true life; 'I'will give us light.
I am the eternal offspring of God (there is only one only begotten of the Father and I am complete in Christ Jesus. When I know that Jesus destroyed the Pain Body (the Body of Sin, the mind formed body in which we suffer death) destroyed on the Cross-when Jesus cried -"It is finished", I become conscious. Now, the same Spiritual awareness which Jesus had as being one in the Father,  now dwells in me. Conscious knowing this quickens even my mortal body and healing will take place in all area of my experience.
Remember, any thing that God created in the beginning, including our body cannot dissolve; even what we call death for our Body is eternal and immortal. He saw that it was good and complete, it is SO and it will be SO FOREVER, think beloved think, this is the Truth!  Only that which man in his carnal mind has formed can be dissolved, IT IS THE BODY OF SIN, it is but temporal, so be encouraged.  Jesus came in this temporal body of flesh first. In His body of flesh He sensed all the wrath of the Devil in it, and cried; "My God why have you forsaken me?"
Jesus carried our sins and our fear and diseases on his Adam body of flesh, born of a woman, born under the Law. Through the death of the Body He re-deemed them all who where all there lifetime subject to the fear of Death, it is wonderful, can you hear his Voice calling you now? Trough death He destroyed him who had the power of death that is the devil, and gave us the spirit of adoption by which we can cry Abba Father.
Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. Heb2
Deeply pay attention to what is spoken on this Audio below as it contains the key to be sustained by the inner Christ Self. While the human world (including all evangelical Christianity) shaken from all its trust in materiality, trust in money, trusting in a god that does not even exists, or trust in any other form of security, especially thinking that Jesus will solve all our problems when He returns, as He never left. . That dog won't hunt, we must now forsake our self trust and surrender to the inner anointing of NOW LIVING, for that is where our salvation comes from, the Presence of your own Consciousness which in due time will show you how to escape the judgements of past fears and anxieties of what is going to happen in the future.
Love Tony.

Liz shares a little something from her heart.

Unfortunately we have been so conditioned to believe that this world of material sense exists as real that we have pretty much ‘sold out’ to it and in the looking at it we have missed entirely the true nature of world, the world that God created in Genesis 1. In Genesis 3 when Adam partook of the forbidden fruit and he saw himself naked and was so afraid, the Lord God spoke to Adam and said ‘Who told you that you were naked?’ Who told you Adam that something better exists outside of the divine substance of Spirit? Who told you to search the world over seeking for ways to exist comfortably, ways that are alternatives for fulfilment when you already exist as the complete fulfilment that I ordained you as in the beginning. What substance could you possibly lack when I AM your total sufficiency? We have taken thought and understood ourselves, through conditioning to be human beings. However God created us in HIS image and likeness which is Spirit. At no time did He say, ‘you have to scratch out a path of existence for yourself and Oh by the way don’t worry who or what you step on to survive.’ No, No, No!
In Genesis 1 God created the heaven and the earth. God spoke and it appeared. There was no ‘ifs, buts or maybes’, IT WAS SO. I have noticed that as I withdraw into this government authority of God that the same principle of completeness also keeps me. God continues to uphold the universe in Him, and  no lack of any form  appears here.
Proverbs 3: 5-6 says ‘Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths. Verse 7 says ‘Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord and depart from evil.’
In my acknowledgement of this, I retire from all activity and watch the Master at work maintaining and sustaining His perfect creation.  The key here is to acknowledge this presence.

I was fortunate enough to read a piece of literature from a book by Goldsmith on Living between Two Worlds which states and I quote: ‘We are in the golden age where science and religion must come together in the realization that the real world of Spirit, of Consciousness, and that Consciousness is really the principle of life. This universe is a projection of Consciousness, and your world and mine are of the nature of our state of consciousness. Our world is the product of the measure of the’ I’ that we are showing forth. If we were wholly unconditioned, then our world could be wholly and entirely spiritual, incorporeal, harmonious, eternal and immortal. But we have been able to manifest only a certain degree or measure of that infinite divine Consciousness and therefore, our world is exactly the measure of divine Consciousness that we can realize. Whatever still remains of error in our life represents the degree of our darkness, our un-illumined or conditioned state. Unquote.

It appears that our state of awareness governs our world or current existence. Whilst we continue to focus our attention on the realm of appearances we sow and reap accordingly however God is not in the realm of appearances and consequently we reap according to the flesh which is our belief in a selfhood separate and apart from the eternal, loving presence. You see we can change our world by changing the way we look out at things BUT remember God is not in the ‘good world’ or the ‘bad world’. We are told not to look to ‘the world’ for things or to improve our life’s situations.
Jesus said, ‘My kingdom is not of this world.’ So where is this kingdom then if it is not in the realm of the appearances? Jesus said in Luke 17:21, ‘Behold, the Kingdom of God is within you.’ In the understanding that there is no ‘outside’ of God for me to dwell in, we remove the world that Adam formed in Genesis 2 and suddenly the pure, clarity of God covers like a graceful cloak and steps before us. IT ENDURES to the end as I acknowledge its presence. In this is the release and we are set free to worship the only wise and true God.

My experience has been to lay down my beliefs, my wants and needs and submit to a loving Father who just so happens to know better than I what I need. We don’t always have to be right. We don’t always have to have it our way. If I feel this then I know I am blowing my own trumpet which will ultimately lead me into death and destruction. As we continue to submit to God we will come to a place where we realise and confess, ‘Not my will but thy will be done Lord, not my way but your way Lord.’
In Psalm 23 we are reminded of our Great, Protective and Loving God.

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want (for companionship, love or friendship and I shall not lack for these things either)
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures; (of the knowledge of God and His greatness)
He leadeth me beside the still waters (of comfort and peace)
He restoreth my soul; (The understanding of I)
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His names sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, (the depths of despair and pain I have made)
I will fear no evil; for thou art with me; (I find you there with me)
Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. (Your wisdom, recognition and love keep me forever)
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: (You reveal and unveil the true way built and established upon the rock)
Thou anointest my head with oil; (my soul is relieved and sits as the enjoyer)
My cup runs over. (with thankfulness and appreciation)
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life;
And I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. (I will dwell in true understanding forever)
P.S I have added some extra comments that spoke to me as I wrote down the Psalm. It is an indication of my appreciation of our wonderful, loving Father who is eager for His creation to know and walk in truth.

Humble yourself before God and He will lift you up into Heavenly places. And it saves you so much angst, frustration and tears. Just think of it – A loving Father who KNOWS my need even before I ask….. That causes me to relax and my love and faith increase in Him for He is all that I have need. Of the increase of His government, there shall be no end. As a consequence,  I am partaking of the increase of His peace and love in my marriage relationship and my body is being renewed. God’s reward is great if we LET this wonderful presence instruct us and allow it to govern our experience.

I have also been made aware that we are to behold this Christ in our family members and ultimately the whole world. Be a benediction or a blessing of the Christ in our daily lives. Sometimes the realm of the appearances seems far greater and stronger than the true kingdom of Christ however if we still react to what is presented before us, we must ask ourselves what am I looking at? What goes on in our experience has nothing to do with those who stand before you causing you so called grief. We must not point the finger and say you are the cause of all my problems. We must ask ourselves, ‘What is this that is being presented before me to reinterpret this day.’ By doing this, we release not only that which appears before us but most importantly we release ourselves from holding anyone or anything in bondage to our beliefs. We must hold no man in bondage to our thoughts and they will ‘feel’ the release of you setting them free.

With love
Liz

 Dear Tony and friends.

This is Kevin again...writing from the Czech Republic.
I just thought I'd write you all a few words to keep in touch with you.
I am listening to your audio lectures quite often still.
When I travel to Switzerland (where I do work in construction), I am able to
Listen to your audios while I am driving and even as I do various jobs there.
You are all very close to my heart and I feel as I am one of your congregation there.
I wish you all knew me sometimes though...
Sometimes I find my self-imagining how it is there as you sit together...
I guess you are a small group from what I gather from the talks.
I hear more birds in the background than people.
I often have questions when I listen to you...
But they are usually just issues of clarification and not of an urgent nature.
But I do notice that my inner ears perk-up a bit when you happen to talk about
Actually how it is to be in that Holy quiet space. I guess I still wish to hear
Any new way to speak about it...even though it can only be truly expressed and understood in words
When the one listening already knows for himself what you are talking about.
I went through many fazes while listening to you...wondering if it was this what you meant or that.
And it really took a lot of  intuitive inner listening again and again before I noticed what it was consciously.
It was like I had spent all my spiritual life looking for God outside of me and then to notice
That God had hidden himself right in the heart of that very looking itself.
God is the most intimate thing about us...closer even than the thoughts or sweet feelings that we can have about him.
And in that intimacy, all separations disappear and as you sometimes say...There is no longer
The Father and the Son. But just the one being of God.
So simple and sweet and absolutely incorruptible.
And I am eternally grateful to you all...my brother and friends in Christ for for so diligently
pointing the way through the fog of  'mental isms'.
If only the people would want the truth enough to drop all that they know about God and religion...form there
it is not so difficult to see the self sustaining one.
Stop everything that can be stopped,
Drop every thought that can be dropped,
Till all that remains is present, living, self-shinning consciousness itself.
(and was it not always there all along anyway?)
How could I have never noticed it before?

Well, thanks again to all of you...
You are all in my heart...
Till we can know each other face to face.
Yours...Kevin Hill

Tony  and Martha den Hartog.

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